You can post now and register later. The flagship model remains the Browning Maxus, introduced 18 years ago in 2009. Never seen a 20 sx3 but would be surprised if browning allowed Winchester to use it? We put all kinds of ammo through them. The gun's soft-shooting VersaPort gas system left the author unbruised and thoroughly charmed by Argentina's wingshooting. 12 gauge shotgu. I'd call it above average. The 2017 Winchester SX4 Puzzler First Look: 2017 Benelli Super Black Eagle 3, the Best Ever? Fouled with sludge from firing nearly 1,500 non-U.S. shotshells, this Remington V3 experienced just one failure to eject before slowing to single-shot status. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. It was also a tank (8 pounds) due to its all-steel construction. Winchester, and sister company Browning, have cornered the market on shotgun trims. Your link has been automatically embedded. I will say that forevermaybe. . People in glass houses shouldn't sink ships. Winchester SX3 - 02/16/10 04:38 PM. But the SX4 has an upgraded trigger guard that is larger than the older version, so you can shoot it more easily with gloves on. Description: Browning Maxus/Winchester SX3 & SX4 Action Spring Tube. Which is the Better Gun: Maxus II 12 gauge shotgun compared to the Winchester SX4 12 gauge shotgun. Everyone had different buying motives and these are just my opinions. The receiver, trigger guard and trigger are aluminum alloy. The receiver on my original gun developed a hairline crack at 200K+ rounds. The SX3 did not offer that on its waterfowl models. Fits Winchester 12Ga, Browning Invector, Mossberg 500, Weatherby, pre 1993 Ruger Red label shotguns; Winchester sx-2, sx-3, & sxp Use Browning Invector plus tubes. I have never actually shot the maxus, but I have only heard good stuff. It is well-finished in the Hunter and other walnut stocked The only difference I can tell between them is mostly the price and a few small things like the trigger guard and slightly different internal reciever. Heavy rib, heavy trigger and Ive found the system to be both handy and a pain in the ass. Welcome to /r/Shotguns, Press J to jump to the feed. No magazine cap; just some funky little latch you pulled on to field strip the gun. I like that. It is the type Im leaning towards a gas operated gun versus inertia driven. I've only seen them on the browning site and haven't seen an actual retail price. Would I buy it again? In either 20 or 12 gauge, this ATA made autoloader is one of I have done a LOT of research and narrowed my options down to the Browning Maxus and the Winchester SX3. Powered by Invision Community. More sharing options. Not at all. Use code "targetfocused20" for a 20% discount! What do I like about the gun? Beretta firearms are pretty good. Winchester SX4. The SX4 is merely an updated SX3, using the same old gas system as the Browning Gold/Silver, and the Winchester SX2 and SX3. JavaScript is disabled. can do without the speed loading feature. Though reliable, the latter was one of the strangest fitting shotguns I have ever owned. Personally, I'd go with a new old stock or slightly used SX3 over the SX4. 9/10. But the recoil you experience with the Winchester is only slightly heavier than the Beretta, which is to say its incredibly manageable. "I drink all different flavors of Kool-Aid; only certain flavors give me the shits!". I was wondering if anybody has hands on experience with both? My custom gun paired with a Rob Roberts T3 choke does shoot better at distance. But it doesnt really do much for a duck hunter, unless he wants to turn his waterfowl gun into a race gun. ***Buy American***. Upload or insert images from URL. The industry standard is 40 yards, but we wanted to showcase the patterns at a more realistic yardage for duck hunters. Red dots and Magnifiers. The first is Speed Load Plus, which lifts the first shell you load into the magazine right into the chamber. The bolt reliably cycles, but it does take some force to pull back. The SX2 operated slightly different though. 1100, its design has stood the test of time. With very poor balance and handling, retina-scalding styling, an unacceptable trigger and an overall low-quality build, this is a shotgun model I will be delighted to never handle or shoot again. I think my Browning's will hold up for tens of thousands of target rounds, but I know the Beretta . Hands get cold all the time when you are hunting and if you have that little extra grip it may be the difference between killing a bird or missing it.. Anyone would prefer an SX3, a Browning Silver, or a Browning Maxus to this Winchester SX4. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The SX1 was chambered for 2-inch shotshells, like many of the auto-loaders and double guns of that era. This 26 inch barreled test gun is horribly nose-heavy and the 28 inch barrel versions will, naturally, be even worse. Although with all the features that the maxus has I might just forget about the forearm. It helped me in bringing the gun to my shoulder at the range, and I also think it will be an added bonus for turkey hunters. Just $1 per month , If youre looking for a reliable 3-inch auto-loader thats affordable, theres no better choice than the Winchester Super X4, By If you want a 20 gauge, go with the silver. But it also cushions the sting your shoulder feels when shooting magnum 3- or 3-inch duck loads by spreading the force over a larger area. Browning supplies many of the same options in its A5 and Maxus II. I would not have any interest in a Franchi. I would opt for the SX4 because I would want the larger safety and trigger guard. The front "bead" is a fiber optic tube. I like all black guns and really like the feel of the dura touch stock. The SX4 is offered in 20 different synthetic, camouflage, and a combination of camouflage and Cerakote finishes called Wicked Wing. Inside 40, which is where we should all be shooting ducks and geese, Ive never noticed any difference. The SX4 is well-balanced as well. All three uses require very different guns for the purest. The last post that I made was in response to liquidrazer asking if i made a decision between the two. The gun has never failed to cycle. Side note: Go with the Old School Camo . It has slowed down when dirty, which lets me know its time for a cleaning. Do you happen to know about what the sporting models are selling for? The SX4 is light (7.1 pounds), making it a fine choice for walk-in duck hunters. Light loads, magnums, dirty loads, rusted onesit had to cycle them all.. Joe Genzel is a senior editor at Outdoor Life. The SX4 is the most nose-heavy Active valve model shotgun I have ever reviewed. There is no grip cap. autoloaders out there. This particular gun has a Cerakote barrel and receiver coupled with Mossy Oak Shadow Grass Habitat camo on the stock and fore-end. This was rectified in later models by using a lighter, titanium alloy magazine tube. As you can probably tell by the custom Cerakote finish on this test gun (which is my personal SX4) there have been some aftermarket modifications made that you wont find on a factory SX4. In 2006, Winchester debuted the SX3 with the Active Valve gas system. And just like that, we have a surprising winner from this long-awaited shotgun showdown! The SX4 bolt has the same simple two-piece design as the SX3. You also wont have any issues shooting different size loads through the SX4. Ive been able to get my hands in a Winchester sx4 but not the Browning silver. Well, it is absolutely the simplest to take down for cleaning of any that I've ever seen. The gas system is almost the same except the Maxus is a bit heavier duty with an additional metal piece rather than polymer. Copyright 2013 by Randy Wakeman. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Sometimes I pull shots right and left, high and low. Generally, the lighter the gun, the worse the recoil. Ive had similar experiences with the SX3 and SX4 paired with Winchester Xpert. Winchester stopped making it in 1981 because the SX1 struggled to compete with Remingtons 1100, which had a lower price tag. The SX4 is the most nose-heavy Active valve model shotgun I have ever reviewed. Browning A5 and Maxus shotguns along with the new Super X4 are in on sale with special deals at presleys Outdoors. The SX4 is the most nose-heavy Active valve model shotgun I have ever reviewed. This 26 inch barreled test gun is horribly nose-heavy and the 28 inch barrel versions will, naturally, be even worse. You cannot paste images directly. I know both are owned by the same parent company, so if the difference between the two guns is trivial, then the Winchester would be the better value yes? I've been taking apart the SX4 for a very long time. Whatwe're really looking to find out today is whether or not the Maxus 2 is worth the extra money when the SX4 shares many of the same internal parts as the Maxus. That square fore-end. Its heavier due its steel receiverbut it balances and feels better due to its steel receiverat least in my hands. To me, it is clearly a rapid advance to the rear, compared to the SX3. We all love old shotguns but that checkering on the grip isnt that great if the gun gets wet, Frampton says. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Different guns shoot differently. FWIW the SX4 is available in 20ga and the Maxus is 12ga only. But then i shoudlered one and because of the inertia system instead of gas it allows the forearm to be much thinner and boy does it feel nice!! Essentially it skips the step of having to press the bolt release button. If you want to shoot 3-inch shells that will eliminate the 1100. Berettas A400 shotguns are well known for their recoil mitigation system, called Kick-Off. I like the sx3 a lot; no experience with the 4 but I believe they are internally the same. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. The fore end of the Maxus clips on, and the Maxus has a magazine cutoff. of product you'll have to buy twice and that is no bargain. This is Euro-trash styling at its worst. What is a IMP CYL choke? The weak one year Beretta limited have heard reports the forends come loose , but what truth is in that I dont know ? Members; 1.9k . Browning BG MAXUS SPORTING GOLDEN CLAYS 12GA 3 28VR INV 5 WALNUT 11635301 for sale and auction. It took You really can make a poor decision between the two. We hate SPAM. Product Description. Posted By: BOBO the Clown. SX4: This is a solid-looking gun. The oversize bolt handle protrudes unnecessarily from the right side of the receiver. another choke tube system that improves nothing, the A400 line is an advance to category, in alphabetical order. I cannot comment on the Browning. Clear editor. You almost have to push the shotshell all the way into the magazine tube and pull your thumb out fast enough so the lifter can catch the shell and deliver it to the chamber. Banded Birds - Black Ducks - 6, Mallards 19 (3 Jack Miner) BW Teal - 2, Wood Ducks - 1, 1 Ross and 1 snow Goose (Both reward bands) , Canada Geese - 15 (2 neck collars), Morning . Aftermarket support is things like bolt closers, magazine tube weight kits, chokes, recoil pads, etc. Display as a link instead, Now, what I don't like about it: the plastic plunger behind the gas cylinder is plastic. It is a seven pound SX4: I gave the SX4 a bonus point for being an absolute workhorse and serving me well in my career as a professional shooter and in every test I throw at it. It is priced right and functions beautifully. And you get the same reliability from the SX4 that you would from those three guns. Member Joined Nov 2005; Posts 848; EE 100% (99) WI, USA. A later one went ~80K rounds and cracked in a different spot. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. less together in 2010, the Vinci has proved to be one of the most innovative and The firing pin has been reliable as well. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Remington's gas gun is a very soft shooter and is now available in a Sportsman trigger, extremely light weight and a better than average recoil pad. i have had a play with both and just my opinion. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. But for now, I must say that SX4 is a better deal for the money. Duratouch is junk, it rubs right off. Browning Maxus 2 Worth the Money? I have the V3 and it is a good choice. The new Phenoma gas-operated semi-auto is available in a full range of gauges from 12 to 28 and .410 bore, and the 20-gauge we tested was one of the biggest surprises in the test. I have the SX4 and my old man has the Browning. Ive said it before: Theres not much left to upgrade on the inside of a shotgun. reasonable seven pound weight and a ComforTech stock that is a huge improvement The SX4 only relies on Active Valve and an Inflex recoil pad (a piece of rubber that is 2 inches thick). The cheek piece on the stock does soften the blow of recoil, which was very manageable on the Maxus II. There was almost always an even distribution of pellets above (60 percent) and below (40 percent) my aim point. The gun cycled flawlessly on a brisk 20-degree day in late February. recoil (despite a fine pad), incomprehensible choke tube system and high price combine Updated Dec 1, 2021 9:34 AM EST. It cycled them all without issue. A group of Outdoor Life and Field & Stream editors (myself included) tested this gun in Sept. 2021, at Pintail Hunting Club in Texas. I have no problem at all with my forearm. Thumbs Up and Thumbs Down on Autoloading Shotguns. Very second nature. If anyone knows anything about this please help. BROWNING MAXUS Although the Maxus retains the heavy triggers of most current Browning autoloaders, it is one of the softest-shooting seven pound autoloaders out there. Specifially trap. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. 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