Keith got his wish because apparently the 250-grain load came along shortly. Reducing this to 2,400 fps was all it took to minimize case stretching in the borrowed rifle. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Wholesale Hunter SKU: 11551041. Those old's workhorses live forever and never let you down! I worked up loads and shot ground squirrels with them (devastating! Great photographs too. 348 winchester for sale and auction. by tman Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:12 pm. Lowering the rear sight until the cross piece barely cleared the guns vertical locking lugs still left 200-grain bullets impacting more than a foot high at 100 yards. Even if I don't ever buy from them (and I handload, so I probably won't), I like the added competition. So this created a rarity in the history of sporting rifles and self-contained metallic cartridges: The Model 71 was never chambered to any cartridge except .348, and the .348 was never factory-chambered to any rifle other than the 71. Winchester Model 71 caliber .348 WCF, pre-war deluxe, Bolt Peep, long tang, excellent condition. in the model 71. The old lever actions bag includes Kudu, Eland, Hartebeest, Cheetah, Oryx, Springbok . 1886 Winchesters in 45-70 and 33 Winchester. Mag. Alaska Hunting . Another snag was discovered during the handloading and shooting process. In this pre-scope era, Winchesters 94 was still doing fine, but the 86 was costly, and sales were down. These are loaded with W-W brass and what is probably the Hornady bullet. MENU. Model 71 Deluxe. 1886 Winchesters in 45-70 and 33 Winchester. Yes, the .348 is known for its lack of recoil, LOL! The .348 Winchester was developed for the Winchester Model 71 lever action rifle in 1936. I completely understand that feeling of relief when the boat is pulled and the ice is running. Caliber .348 Winchester. It gained a strong reputation for close range medicine on moose, elk, and even big bears. Winchester. There was a time, before the Model 70 had become a household name, when Winchester was synonymous with the lever-action rifle. Noooooow we understand what was going on in. The ogive was different than the 250 gr Winchester bullets, and required much deeper seating to not touch the rifling. Hawk Bullets provided four: a 200-grain FP, 230-grain SP, 250-grain FP and a 270-grain FP. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The 250-grain bullet was a real powerhouse. Manufacturer Winchester. Barrel 24". Traded, not because they were bad in any way but because I wanted to learn about other rifles and cast for hunting. Serial Number 18423. $14.95. I am currently thinning out my gun collection because I have more than I can use. The muzzle energy (ME) of this load is 2820 ft. lbs. Great pictures and a beatiful daughter. Long-tang Model 71s are more desirable, but theres little difference in utility.CB. Hornady offers the 200-grain FTX and a 200-grain roundnose InterLock as component bullets, but few other mainstream choices remain. 250 for $465.50. to a little over 2400fps. You must log in or register to reply here. Despite its relatively short run and limited production numbers, the Model 71 and Browning look-alikes are held in high esteem in Alaska. I've been loading my 348 winchester with 7383 powder this year, and on Chronograph, have achieved the most consistent loads ever managed by me. I was inebriated with two cartridges, the .35 Whelen and the .348 Winchester. That said, keeping cases trimmed to 2.245 inches, setting the shoulder back no more than is absolutely necessary to smoothly close the action and not seeking the maximum muzzle velocity not only solved the problem, but also ensured a reasonable case life of five or more loadings. Mag..404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby.243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor.300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Our 16 months old daughter decided to have a nap while we worked on the animal. I got my first Model 71 about 20 years after the rifle was discontinued, and it came with some component 150-grain bullets. Batemanthat's a fine looking rifle, and appears to have the original butt plate. When I looked at factory data they offered anything from a 150 grain bullet at 2780 ft/s (2750 ft-lbs) to a 250 grain bullet 2350 ft/s (3060 ft-lbs). Some of the younger hunters might question the .348WCF. The issue with both cartridges is the lack of choices when it comes to factory-loaded ammunition. My involvement in all this began a couple years ago when a good friend walked into his local gun emporium, spied a Model 71 resting in a corner and decided quite rightly that life would be better if he returned home with it. In 1987 Browning began selling a Japanese-made replica of the Model 71, also in .348 Winchester. Hang onto that puppy. For heavier game, strongly constructed, 200-grain bullets and those of greater weight are a better choice, especially in close timber. Mfg: Winchester. Engineers created manufacturing accommodations to reduce costs. Because of top-ejection, there are two primary ways to mount a scope on the 71: a long-eye-relief scope on the barrel or an offset side mount on the left side of the receiver. Powder choices for the .348 Winchester include IMR4064, IMR4320 and IMR4350, IMR 4166, Hodgdon H414, H4831SC and VARGET, and Accurates 4350; all are well-served by a large rifle primer. The .338 Marlin Express shoots flat enough and accurately enough for almost any deer hunting, but if you don't hunt game larger than deer . has a good reputation, but it lags behind the .375 H&H Magnum. Case separations can occur from stretching due to overloading or setting the shoulder back excessively. I too shot a moose with a Woodleigh, the 275 grain protected point (358 Win), and I never found either bullet. Initially offered in the relatively new .308 Winchester, it was soon available in the new-fangled .243 Winchester, and the cartridge designed to supplant the .348 Winchester: the .358 Winchester. This was such an amazing harvest of a free range trophy in the hill tops of Dullstroom. Various reports of factory-original muzzle velocities for the 150- grain bullet range from 2,890 to 2,920 fps. Various reports of factory-original muzzle velocities for the 150- grain bullet range from 2,890 to 2,920 fps. Just got back from using a Win 1895 in .405 in RSA, no worries. At that time, he was still using apertures for most of his big game hunting, so the Model 71s sights werent a handicap. The current Winchester .348 factory load uses a 200 grain Silvertip bullet (SD .236) at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2520 fps from a 24" barrel. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. Winchesters loadings were a 150-grain bullet at 2,890 fps, a 200-grain bullet at 2,530 fps and a 250-grain bullet at 2,350 fps. Still anxiously waiting for more info on the performance of your handload. You must log in or register to reply here. Rifle Recoil Table. The cartridge uses a 19-degree, 10-minute shoulder, culminating in a neck which gives excellent tension, though because of the tubular magazine of the Model 71 the bullets are crimped firmly in place. Very nice for sure, cool rifle, cool moose, cool pics! Member. . Based on the .50-110 Winchester, the .348 Winchester built on the concept of the .33 Winchester; they share the same 0.610-inch rim diameter, and both use a tapered, bottlenecked case. For those who enjoy hunting with Winchester lever-action rifles, weve got a pair of fantastic cartridges for this comparison, purposely suited to their particular rifles, with enough horsepower to fill the role of an all-around cartridge. 1d 20h. This in turn leads to case stretching. (2,250 fps/M.E. I would be interested in some .348, do you have an idea of when it would be available for purchase in Anchorage? Well, I looked the round up and it was one respected rimmed cartridge. Both Browning and Winchester have offered modern versions over the past few decades. Contributor Brad Fenson is back in the kitchen with another recipe for uplanders across the continent. Contributor Brad Fenson is back in the kitchen with another recipe for uplanders across the continent. The 250-grain load was first offered with a Silvertip bullet. ZeroTech Optics'latest offering, theThrive HD series, boasts the latest generation of the company's Extra-Low Dispersion (ED) glass. Other companies, such as Remington and Peters, produced .348 Winchester ammunition, with Peters offering a 210-grain Belted bullet. The Deluxe came standard with an aperture sight; the Standard had a buckhorn rear sight. Date of Manufacture 1940. Oct 22, 2012. I had the new Winchester ream to a Ackley improved to minimize the stretching of the case. Mine have all been rifles. I ordered a box. Muzzle velocities for the 200-grain bullet have been reported from 2,520 to 2,535 fps. I really need to start doing that as I enjoy all the pics shared by others. Join us in celebrating the NWTF's 50th anniversary by entering for a . Bottles & 12-oz. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. Probably not, but if you find a good Model 71, it sure is fun to hunt with such a classic cartridge. We appreciate the support and thank you for choosing Winchester. The only load for the 348 I usually see up here is the 200 silvertip, just thinking a heavy bullet load might be a good selling point. World's most popular community & resource for hunting in Africa since 2007. Model: Model 71. Especially with 200- grain bullets, it seemed about ideal, but since most load data developed with it was fairly old, there were now several powders with similar burning rates that needed to be explored. Semi-Auto Machine Gun; Tactical; Singe Shot; BSA Rifles . Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? Spotting this ram was down to pure hunting luck at 300m. Please note we use stock pictures that is a representation of the item and may not be the exact picture due to manufacturers design change or simple a general picture or group picture with the item in it. The second important assumption is 'slightly-suboptimal' to 'optimal' shot placement. Calling to celebrate the new purchase, he casually informed me he had for some years 100 new, unprimed .348 Winchester cases. Aug 26, 2017. Winchester Ammunition manufactures ammo for all shooting activities including hunting, sport, target and personal defense. This explains how the Model 71 got its name. Simply the .308 Winchester case necked up to hold .358-inch-diameter bulletsmuch like the .30-06 Springfield necked up will yield the .35 Whelenand using the same 20-degreee shoulder for headspacing, the rimless cartridge fed perfectly from the Model 88s box magazine, as well as the in the Model 70 and Savage Model 99. It was the 250-grain .348-inch bullet, with a sectional density of 0.295, that gave the .348 Winchester its excellent reputation against the larger species like brown bear and moose, though the 200-grain slugsectional density of 0.236worked on smaller species, including black bear and elk. cartridge. I would like to purchase these. The old Weaver is surprisingly clear, and the adjustments still track. . Yukon River.Alaska/Yukon Border. Vertical stringing at 100 yards was due to velocity variations. A 180- to 185-grain .338 bullet is light for this caliber, but fast. You are using an out of date browser. Nice rifle, and Nice moose! For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. Quite obviously, this lineup of bullets will handle a wide variety of game animals. For bullet weights above 200 grains, H-4831 produced the smallest groups and extreme velocity spreads. While we are comparing the pair of cartridges, the rifle does, in my opinion, come into play. 348 Winchester - Help Wanted. That 162 grains is light for caliber, but lever actions are limited to finite cartridge overall length, and copper-alloy bullets are longer than lead-core bullets. But by the 1930s Winchester had a problem. I collect Winchester and Savage lever guns, but I also use them for hunting around home. Mark I would like to buy your scope unless you have one with a red dot . It would appear few cases have been the basis for so many wildcat cartridges ranging from the .348 Improved through the .375, .416, .458 and even the .50 calibers. Congratulations. The Model 71 action is strongeven stronger than the 1886and the .348 Winchester gave unprecedented velocities from a rimmed cartridge. But for those of us who admire the handiness of the action type and the slower and quieter pace of hunting in the woods, there will always be a place for a good lever action. Reality, however, was that neither Marlin nor Savage had a lever action big enough for the .348, and neither the Marlin 336 nor the Savage 99 required a rimmed cartridge. For heavier bullets, in this particular rifle, the Hawk 250-grain FP really stood out. He probably considered it overpowered, but Id love to know the circumstances and which bullet he used. cartridge. That Model 71 looks like it is very much at home. That thing throws a 200-grain bullet over 2,500 fps. 0. BUFFALO BORE's 348 WINCHESTER AMMO. Crimping when loading cartridges to be used in lever actions is a necessity. Narrowing down bullet choice was difficult and best left to the individual shooter and his specific needs. The 33 cal. vs. .300 Win. Many of them were rebarrelled to 450 Alaskan which is a .348 Win necked up to .458 with minor changes in body taper. The elements were against us, with rain and mist making visibility poor. 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